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i'm just gonna be honest...

TheRandonOne - 9-13-2006 at 07:27 PM

each song on the search and destroy ep is far better than every song on this cd, they ruined chip off the block, and ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, i am just really fucking dissapointed.


hopefully it'll grow on me, but i really don't see that happening. I'll be happy with the s/t and all my bsides i guess :/

imanodoubtaholic - 9-13-2006 at 08:11 PM

it feels like a lot of filler. but i have a big feeling it's going to grow on me. blossom even..

Evil - 9-13-2006 at 08:40 PM

i think choo guys are crasy

beedun - 9-14-2006 at 05:22 AM

Yeah, you two don't know what you are talking about.

Chip of the Block is so much better than the demo.
I don't know how to put it into words but the album does seem a bit more 'full' or 'filled' compared to the first, but I still love it.

My only complaint is that it isn't long enough. Especially when its noted they wrote a lot of songs for this album..

The EP is great, both albums are great, and all of the b-sides are great. I feel priveledged to know about this band and can't wait for more!

[Edited on 14-9-2006 by beedun]

Noisemonster - 9-14-2006 at 07:34 AM

Okay, so I'm honest, too.

Sorry to say that, but I agree with Randon and 'doubtaholic.

Monument to the masses has some good songs. The tunes that I really like are Eskimo Ride (the best one from the album), Pouring Pain, Stick it to the man, Creeps me out and parts of The Beat. But: they're not that great when I compare them to around 20 of my favorite Ima songs like STD Dance, Black Jettas, Dirty Life, My Number, A is for action, Paint the town red, and and and..
All the other songs of Monument are not bad, but I really don't feel absorbed to them like I feel when I listen to the self-titled album, to the EP or to most of the b-sides and demos. Especially the 'edgy', 'quirky' side was the thing that made Ima Robot so special to me. No other band sounded like them. Now this album is just as good as hundreds of other albums. Not better, not worse.. it's vanishing in the land of 'not bad' albums.
And what about Fibonacci?? In my opinion, this song is also way better than EVERY song on Monument to the masses. THIS song is a killer. THIS is the one that I wanna listen to day and night. I bet that, from the time they wrote/produced the album, there are a lot of unreleased songs that I'd like much more. :(

I hope I didn't disappoint anyone. It's just the way I feel about the thing. It's just my opinion.

PS: I have almost the same problem with the new The Rapture album.

beedun - 9-14-2006 at 10:08 AM

Yeah, Fibonacci is the one recent song that does sound like their older stuff. I wish I had a good quality recording of it.

imarob2 - 9-14-2006 at 11:51 AM

isnt the reason this record is distinctly different than their other material due to the pressure from their label for them to put out a "more straightforward, pop" album? sure, it does detract from their unique sound, but all if they want is sales, you cant stray too far from the pop formula. im guessing the band foresaw this and felt the urge to release Search and Destroy, more like what they would want to put out.

Noisemonster - 9-14-2006 at 12:49 PM

I think this is the point :) and I'm very thankful that they made Search and Destroy!

Phobiac - 9-14-2006 at 01:00 PM

I really like the new CD. I really like Eskimo Ride, Lovers In Captivity and Pouring Pain...maybe I'm a sucker for the 'popier' sound.

The re-do of Chip could never live up to the original for me just due to the fact of all the other memories that I have attached to when I first heard the original demo of Chip Off The Block about 4 years ago.

Phobiac

TurtleEnterprises - 9-14-2006 at 01:32 PM

I agree with Phobiac, I will always love the original Chip off the block. The new cd is just alright will take some time to grow on me. But honestly when I heard Search and Destroy I immediately loved every song. Maybe because the Search and Destroy music is way Newer doesnt the new cd say it was recorded in 2005? I may be wrong.

imanodoubtaholic - 9-14-2006 at 02:34 PM

it's totally growing on me. i can't put it down. the first album was the same with the growing thing. BUT, the first album had things that would pop out at you for the first time after you'd already heard it 50 times... that to me is part of what was so amazing about it. i think that what's really getting my attention is the idea of seeing these new songs live. i think it's going to be awesome.
the only thing missing for me is the creepy ima. like the what are we made from kind of song.
there should've been more. and fibonacci will be the silent killer.

imarob2 - 9-16-2006 at 10:28 PM

turtle i think youre right. cause the album was supposed to come out way back in the spring, so it must have been recorded in mid/late '05 and written some time before that

beedun - 9-17-2006 at 05:51 AM

Tim said himself they are more proud of Search & Destroy then they are of MFTM. Can't remember which interview it was.....

poobs - 9-17-2006 at 07:27 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Phobiac
The re-do of Chip could never live up to the original for me just due to the fact of all the other memories that I have attached to when I first heard the original demo of Chip Off The Block about 4 years ago.



I agree..I don't hate the new version, but the old one has such a special place in my heart..What a long journey it's been..:) The album is growing on me..There were a few songs that I loved right away and a few that I wasn't too stoked about but am getting used to..I love this band no matter what, but I was expecting to be blown away with this album and I'm just not..Ahh well..There's always the next one, eh? ;)

draconian - 9-17-2006 at 08:30 AM

I think I'm going to look forward to the next EP rather than album if it means more creative control for the band. Though I like the album overall, it pales in comparison to the EP, imo. The latter is more consistent and organically comprised, with a less-polished sound that suits them well.

But I do love Eskimo Ride.

imarob2 - 9-17-2006 at 01:14 PM

i was thinking the same thing drac. cant wait for an EP. i hope theres a few, since we got four from around the self titled album...

idreamptofUmbrella - 9-18-2006 at 05:54 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by imanodoubtaholic
BUT, the first album had things that would pop out at you for the first time after you'd already heard it 50 times... that to me is part of what was so amazing about it.
there should've been more. and fibonacci will be the silent killer.


i found the same with the s/t, but give this one 50 listens and i'm sure the same will happen. the beat, happy annie, creeps me out, and stick it to the man are my personal favourites from the new one. the only problem i've got is the revised chip off the block. sittin in god's ear... god why? the original is absolutely perfect. i don't necessarily think that ima robots more pop side is necessarily the result of record pressure. what i mean is they've got a more diverse sound than almost any other band i can think of and the do good pop.

(IMA)Elmo - 6-26-2007 at 10:35 AM

search and destroy is better but monument has grown on me and isn't that bad.