but lincon wasn't a douche and try and finish his fathers war. bush jr. only went to iraq to finish what bush senior started.

bush wanted to go to war.

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Originally posted by IMAKFRIED Why are people so against bush. I mean first, its not his decision that we go to war, second, if he didn't get yelled at he would still get yelled at for not going to war. That's why i would never want to be president. You get yelled at no matter what you do. YOU TRY RUNNING A FUCKING COUNTRY. And wow about 2000 troops died over there and people yell at bush (im not saying that that's no a lot but...) while in the civil war, over 7,000 died in JUST ONE BATTLE and no body yelled at Lincoln. He's one of the most respected presidents now.

Are you serious? You have to be one of the most ignorant people I know or you are not very educated.

I did get a laugh at how you mentioned he's one of the most respected presidents.. For fucks sake he has an approval rating below 30%, that is the second lowest in the history of presidents...

Who voted for hillary!?!?!?!?!?!

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Originally posted by beedun [For fucks sake he has an approval rating below 30%, that is the second lowest in the history of presidents...

I meant lincoln is, not bush.

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Originally posted by IMAKFRIED Why are people so against bush. I mean first, its not his decision that we go to war, second, if he didn't get yelled at he would still get yelled at for not going to war. That's why i would never want to be president. You get yelled at no matter what you do. YOU TRY RUNNING A FUCKING COUNTRY. And wow about 2000 troops died over there and people yell at bush (im not saying that that's no a lot but...) while in the civil war, over 7,000 died in JUST ONE BATTLE and no body yelled at Lincoln. He's one of the most respected presidents now.

Dude hells yes! I'm totally not saying that bush is the greatest president alive but he's doing alot better than some and 2000 people in one war really isn't alot of people for a war. And you look at the economy (not now no) But last year it was at it's highest point in god knows how long. There's all this "anti-bush" propoganda out there that no one wants to actually look at the good stuff that he's done. and FYI it's not Bush's decision on whether or not we go to war, he doesn't have that control, the president doesn't decide that no no. Congress does. SO if you're pissed about the war bitch at your Congressman. And as for a surg of troops that Bush wants, that is just fuckin' great becasue if we just pull our troops out now, how the fuck would you feel if you knew that you just went in there fucked everything up and didn't do shit to fix the problem??? I'd feel pretty shitty. And as for it working, when they did the surg before, it did improve things over there. And if you're thinking I'm some "ignorant redneck" or some "dumbass that doesn't look at all the facts" all have you know that my Stepdad is in the Navy and he's been over there, I'm a very politically aware person, and you dumbasses should just be glad that the country didn't vote in John Kerry because he was a whole hell of a lot worse then Bush.


Ranting over.

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Originally posted by minimandy14 2000 people in one war really isn't alot of people

one person is too many

Compared to the amount of people that they were killing over there just for no reason.




If you want peace, prepare for war.

2,000+ US Troops dead and 80,000+ Iraqi civilians dead.

George Bush is mainly responsible for this.

Go ahead and don't blame him for it, , he IS the commander in chief after all........

But congress has the decision over whether or not we go to war or not. Sure he can deny that desicion but they can overrule it. Its congress' fault. And if clinton had done something about the first terrorist attack against us during his presidency then this war would be over by now.

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Originally posted by beedun 2,000+ US Troops dead and 80,000+ Iraqi civilians dead. George Bush is mainly responsible for this. Go ahead and don't blame him for it, , he IS the commander in chief after all........

Yes because it is Bush's decision on whether or not we go to war. And you think that you'd be any happier if 9/11 had happend and nothing came of it?

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Originally posted by minimandy14 Yes because it is Bush's decision on whether or not we go to war. And you think that you'd be any happier if 9/11 had happend and nothing came of it?

Bush responded to 9/11 with a failed attempt in Afghanistan, so something did become of that.

Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11....

But 9/11 led to iraq through Osama Bin Laden, Where we then found a country in deep need to overthrow the government, and we are helping out. And those 80,000 civilians dead, most of them were not killed by us. Car bombs, roadside bombs, suicide bombs..... They are killing themselves. We did i'm guessing maybe 20,000 of that and because they were armed and posed a threat. Do you not see that we are trying to get this country back in order? There are TONS of police training centers throughout Bahgdad, each teaching the iraqi people to defend themselves and create their own working law system so that we don't have to be there any longer once that is done.

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Originally posted by beedun Quote: Originally posted by minimandy14 Yes because it is Bush's decision on whether or not we go to war. And you think that you'd be any happier if 9/11 had happend and nothing came of it? Bush responded to 9/11 with a failed attempt in Afghanistan, so something did become of that.

YOu do realize that just because Afganistan is no longer in the news that doesn't mean that we aren't still over there right? Because it's not a failed attempt until some dumbass says "HEY bring all those troops home!" Instead of finishing the job.

i'm still looking at this

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Originally posted by IMAKFRIED Why are people so against bush. I mean first, its not his decision that we go to war, second, if he didn't get yelled at he would still get yelled at for not going to war. That's why i would never want to be president. You get yelled at no matter what you do. YOU TRY RUNNING A FUCKING COUNTRY. And wow about 2000 troops died over there and people yell at bush (im not saying that that's no a lot but...) while in the civil war, over 7,000 died in JUST ONE BATTLE and no body yelled at Lincoln. He's one of the most respected presidents now.

how dare you compare lincon to bush. what's wrong with you?

I'm comparing presidents.

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Originally posted by IMAKFRIED I'm comparing presidents.

And wars.


I'm sorry but it's not like we are putting Bush on some HIGH altar saying he's the best president ever, but just not as bad as people make him out to be.

he's not, but he's still a dumbass

He should be sitting in a UN jail cell guilty of war crimes........

i'm just sayin'

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Originally posted by minimandy14 Bush on some HIGH altar saying he's the best president ever, but just not as bad as people make him out to be.

No, I'm saying LINCOLN Was one of the best presidents ever. (Even though i wasn't around to witness it. :lol

so you're saying bush is one of the greatest presidents ever?

Alright now you're trying to make me mad.

That or you're really clueless about what we're talking about.

[Edited on 9-2-2008 by IMAKFRIED]

I'm not big into talking about politics...not my road.

when talking about politics and you're a different party, it always ends in a fight.

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Originally posted by SKG when talking about politics and you're a different party, it always ends in a fight.

Word. I wouldn't hesitate to punch anyone in front of me if they said they support Bush.